It seems there are alot of happy people in Missouri-mainly hunters..John Hoskins is going to retire..I,m glad hes going too but not so happy to think that the man(like many politicians)will be getting a pension for screwing up the state of Missouri hunting and fishing...
I guess you know that poor guy who listened and read all this crap about the wild hogs got a fine and 6months probation for doing something the MDC said it was alright to do because they control the hunting and seasons on the National forest..The USFS says no way-they have the say on the forest and I say I(we) have the say on our private property...Personally I wish I had a few hogs on the menu..Ive have talked to many property owners in South central MO and only one said he "thinks"he may have seen a hog--and anyhow I can not see what damage some would do in this neck of the woods...There is no row farming simply because there is no dirt too speak off..and secondly it should be up to property owners to decide...There have been hogs in MO since man settled here..They are worried about a little hog damage but its OK that imported cattle have caused the destruction of almost 10 MILLION acres...Try to get an answer from the MDC on that...Good luck...They just can,t get it thru their skull that cattle are NOT NATIVE to this country but several types of PIGS are...
Saturday, August 29, 2009
Thursday, August 6, 2009
The "C" in MDC does not stand for conservation
I was talking to a young lady who contacted me about helping out with getting rid of the MDC..
It seems it was her Grandpa,s last wish..She had checked out sites like Take back the MDC but that site is defunct and Larry Dabelmont who was starting something about the MDC but as she put it but he was only looking to sell books(pad his pocket)She even offered to set up a website but I told her I could not be of much help because I can only get dail-up service..Her Grandpa left her a tidy sum to give to some-one to help get rid of the MDC...Here,s her story...
It seems her Grand pa was having trouble with squirrels chewing up his feeder so he got his 22 out and started thinning them out..He lived along a main road and one day a pick-up pulled in and asked him what he was doing.He told the man -and then the fella said he was a MDC agent and was going to give him a warning ticket about shooting squirrels out of season..Grandpa ..was'nt too impressed and told him he would take care of his own problems on his own land and he wouldn,t have these problems if the SOB next door had not gone and bulldozed 100 acres flat so he could put more cattle in..Grandpa asked the agent where the hell do you think all the "critters" that the bulldozer did not kill went...and then proceeded to tell the agent "Squirels are only half the problem...I have a 100 coon and possum I sure don,t need either...Then Grandpa asked the agent "did you give that guy a warning for all the animals he killed"to which the agent replied...Where did he shoot them?Grandpa said he didn,t shoot them
you moron he killed them with the bulldozer,and told the agent to go look in that pile the dozer pushed up..There were fawns crushed- old trees with hollows with crushed possum and racoons.When the wind was right it sure stunk this Gal said.The agent then told Grandpa what the man done was not illegal..So Grandpa thought a minute and then said to the agent..Now let me get this straight--as long as I use a bulldozer I can go out and kill anything I see any time of the year...The agent told Grandpa don,t you get smart with me...and Grandpa said to the agent I,m going to count to 10 and you better have your ass off my land....
This is only one of the reasons we have to at least get the word conservation out of the MDC because they don,t know what it means...
And by the way guess what John Hoskins does with his land--Yup --cattle -so what the hell does he care about conservation...
It seems it was her Grandpa,s last wish..She had checked out sites like Take back the MDC but that site is defunct and Larry Dabelmont who was starting something about the MDC but as she put it but he was only looking to sell books(pad his pocket)She even offered to set up a website but I told her I could not be of much help because I can only get dail-up service..Her Grandpa left her a tidy sum to give to some-one to help get rid of the MDC...Here,s her story...
It seems her Grand pa was having trouble with squirrels chewing up his feeder so he got his 22 out and started thinning them out..He lived along a main road and one day a pick-up pulled in and asked him what he was doing.He told the man -and then the fella said he was a MDC agent and was going to give him a warning ticket about shooting squirrels out of season..Grandpa ..was'nt too impressed and told him he would take care of his own problems on his own land and he wouldn,t have these problems if the SOB next door had not gone and bulldozed 100 acres flat so he could put more cattle in..Grandpa asked the agent where the hell do you think all the "critters" that the bulldozer did not kill went...and then proceeded to tell the agent "Squirels are only half the problem...I have a 100 coon and possum I sure don,t need either...Then Grandpa asked the agent "did you give that guy a warning for all the animals he killed"to which the agent replied...Where did he shoot them?Grandpa said he didn,t shoot them
you moron he killed them with the bulldozer,and told the agent to go look in that pile the dozer pushed up..There were fawns crushed- old trees with hollows with crushed possum and racoons.When the wind was right it sure stunk this Gal said.The agent then told Grandpa what the man done was not illegal..So Grandpa thought a minute and then said to the agent..Now let me get this straight--as long as I use a bulldozer I can go out and kill anything I see any time of the year...The agent told Grandpa don,t you get smart with me...and Grandpa said to the agent I,m going to count to 10 and you better have your ass off my land....
This is only one of the reasons we have to at least get the word conservation out of the MDC because they don,t know what it means...
And by the way guess what John Hoskins does with his land--Yup --cattle -so what the hell does he care about conservation...
Saturday, July 25, 2009
The MDC owes the Landowner Money--its time to collect
I've had some interesting talks with a few people about their feelings on the loss of property rights and how to deal with them..Pretty much all agree our State representatives absolutely do NOT represent the people and pass laws that benefit their asses...
That is mainly the reason for this blog and hopefully some day a web site for the people to pool their resources and ideas..If you leave out the word Game and fish Depts and then make a list of what defines communisn and socialism it fits them to a "T"....
We need to get rid of them and start over-but you even hear the same broken down retoric from "Joe Blow" as the representatives...We got them in but now we can't get them out because blah-blah..Thats qualifies as brainwashing..Heres an Idea how to start to get rid of them...Take away their Money..Landowners I hope you realize the MDC is selling licenses to hunt and fish on YOUR LAND ....and your not getting a dime..First thing we need to do is close all private property for hunting etc..except for the owner..Lets see how many license the MDC sells then..Then make the MDC stamp on the license Good for MDC property ownly which is exactly what the Missouri constitution says the MDC can manage NOT private property...Its the property owner that should be getting those fees for hunting NOT the MDC..
The next thing is to vote out that sales tax money the MDC gets..They are spending it on everything but the wildlife of this state..
The MDC puts out this fancy shiny magazine called the conservationist and it never mentions the private citizens work..The last one I looked at had stories about MDC stream teams and the MDC once again patting themselves on the back when the fact of the story is --the good people of Missouri are cleaning the mess up and the MDC is taking the credit...
I,m sure most people know what an oxymoron is..Well here is one from another state...
First line reads--Wildlife is the property of the State..
Last line says--Nothing herein shall be construed to infringe on the right of private property owners to control their own property---Say WHAT!!~Now thats what happens when a Lawyer writes it up...You got to give this one some serious thought---and then realize the type of idiots we deal with OR are we the Idiots...
That is mainly the reason for this blog and hopefully some day a web site for the people to pool their resources and ideas..If you leave out the word Game and fish Depts and then make a list of what defines communisn and socialism it fits them to a "T"....
We need to get rid of them and start over-but you even hear the same broken down retoric from "Joe Blow" as the representatives...We got them in but now we can't get them out because blah-blah..Thats qualifies as brainwashing..Heres an Idea how to start to get rid of them...Take away their Money..Landowners I hope you realize the MDC is selling licenses to hunt and fish on YOUR LAND ....and your not getting a dime..First thing we need to do is close all private property for hunting etc..except for the owner..Lets see how many license the MDC sells then..Then make the MDC stamp on the license Good for MDC property ownly which is exactly what the Missouri constitution says the MDC can manage NOT private property...Its the property owner that should be getting those fees for hunting NOT the MDC..
The next thing is to vote out that sales tax money the MDC gets..They are spending it on everything but the wildlife of this state..
The MDC puts out this fancy shiny magazine called the conservationist and it never mentions the private citizens work..The last one I looked at had stories about MDC stream teams and the MDC once again patting themselves on the back when the fact of the story is --the good people of Missouri are cleaning the mess up and the MDC is taking the credit...
I,m sure most people know what an oxymoron is..Well here is one from another state...
First line reads--Wildlife is the property of the State..
Last line says--Nothing herein shall be construed to infringe on the right of private property owners to control their own property---Say WHAT!!~Now thats what happens when a Lawyer writes it up...You got to give this one some serious thought---and then realize the type of idiots we deal with OR are we the Idiots...
Saturday, July 11, 2009
How about the facts
This little blog in a way has nothing to do with Missouri like many other states,but what it does is let the other states "copy"each other..Meaning the MDC says "hey they are doing it in this state so lets do it here...
Back in 1979 in Washington state- Game and fish put out an ad for someone to conduct a study on What was called "color visability in the woods for safety"..Seemed innocent enough..Well the people that got the contract had access to a large ranch and was able to get at least 16 college volunteers to help..The ranch area had leafy(deciduous )trees in the valley-sagebrush wide open going up the mountain and evergreen forest near the top and that pretty much covered many types of terrain..
The students were sent along established routes and swapped back and forth so all would be able to cover the area...The students were given different color hats and vests..and at the end of 2 months just before hunting season the results were put together and presented to Game and Fish..#1 most visable color was WHITE--#2 color was BLUE--#3 was YELLOW or ORANGE..
But the most interesting part of the whole study was at the end when they had all the students together to give them their pay they also had a roundtable discussion..some of the students looked at their results and said "if this study is for safety maybe the best thing to wear is "Camo"for it seems over 60 percent of the time the students did not see each other in the woods..As one of them said "hey if they can,t see me they can,t shoot me..Interesting thought..
The rest is very interesting reading but lets get to the point..
Wa Game and fish then came out in the papers telling about an extensive study that recommends hunters wear Orange and Game and Fish will impliment it..That whole study was just a RUSE...
The people were outraged and most of all the people who done the study were mad as hell because they were used..and it was never recommended...Game and Fish would not retract what they said- so even under threat of a lawsuit they gave the study to the Seattle times and all hell broke loose...So Game and Fish just to calm things down fired the head of their Public information Dept head...Poor guy ..No-- not quite..The next year he was hired by Idaho Game and Fish and has been feeding the people the same type of crap and is due to retire with a huge pension...You ought to hear some of the garbage he feeds people on those wolves they jammed down the peoples throats...I,ve been going to Idaho for 30 years so my information is first hand ..The moral to this story simply put is Game and Fish are accomplished liars in all states and John Q Public needs to question EVERYTHING they say...
I would dearly love to get the web site going,but I really think people are afraid of retaliation...and thats sad,because people you are supposed to be their BOSS not the other way around..So if you are sitting on your ass waiting for the other guy to do it I have some news for you--YOU are the other guy......
Back in 1979 in Washington state- Game and fish put out an ad for someone to conduct a study on What was called "color visability in the woods for safety"..Seemed innocent enough..Well the people that got the contract had access to a large ranch and was able to get at least 16 college volunteers to help..The ranch area had leafy(deciduous )trees in the valley-sagebrush wide open going up the mountain and evergreen forest near the top and that pretty much covered many types of terrain..
The students were sent along established routes and swapped back and forth so all would be able to cover the area...The students were given different color hats and vests..and at the end of 2 months just before hunting season the results were put together and presented to Game and Fish..#1 most visable color was WHITE--#2 color was BLUE--#3 was YELLOW or ORANGE..
But the most interesting part of the whole study was at the end when they had all the students together to give them their pay they also had a roundtable discussion..some of the students looked at their results and said "if this study is for safety maybe the best thing to wear is "Camo"for it seems over 60 percent of the time the students did not see each other in the woods..As one of them said "hey if they can,t see me they can,t shoot me..Interesting thought..
The rest is very interesting reading but lets get to the point..
Wa Game and fish then came out in the papers telling about an extensive study that recommends hunters wear Orange and Game and Fish will impliment it..That whole study was just a RUSE...
The people were outraged and most of all the people who done the study were mad as hell because they were used..and it was never recommended...Game and Fish would not retract what they said- so even under threat of a lawsuit they gave the study to the Seattle times and all hell broke loose...So Game and Fish just to calm things down fired the head of their Public information Dept head...Poor guy ..No-- not quite..The next year he was hired by Idaho Game and Fish and has been feeding the people the same type of crap and is due to retire with a huge pension...You ought to hear some of the garbage he feeds people on those wolves they jammed down the peoples throats...I,ve been going to Idaho for 30 years so my information is first hand ..The moral to this story simply put is Game and Fish are accomplished liars in all states and John Q Public needs to question EVERYTHING they say...
I would dearly love to get the web site going,but I really think people are afraid of retaliation...and thats sad,because people you are supposed to be their BOSS not the other way around..So if you are sitting on your ass waiting for the other guy to do it I have some news for you--YOU are the other guy......
Sunday, June 28, 2009
Well this week has sure been a hot one..Almost 100 several days around here..I notice the critters don't even come up until almost dark..I was glad to see some of my hens come up with their new brood..Only from one to four little guys..I suspect the wet weather had alot to do with it...Have you ever wondered how the MDC comes up with their figures on the amount of game in the state???I have asked my neighbors over the years if they have ever been contacted by the MDC and asked about the amount of deer and turkey they see and the answer is always NO followed by "I wouldn't tell those SOBs anyway..They are not welcome here..I know personally for years I have video taped the critters on my place and never come close to the stuff I see in print..Kind of like the reports on fishing you read about..You get skunked and your buddies are catching nothing,but the paper says fishing is great,but if you look at who wrote the report its always a resort or guide or something along that line that benefits them..They are not going to say fishing stinks stay home...They all want your money..I kind of think the same way about the MDC and all states for that matter..I have worked in several states for Game and fish and I know some good stories...and I am sure there are people out there that can top me..I was hoping this blog might get some of them on line,but I guess this blog is in the wrong spot....I was just hoping to get enough people interested in saving their rights so I could put a web site up.I just hope people are not saying anything out of fear of retaliation...
Sunday, June 21, 2009
Maybe its time to Fine the Judges
It has been brought to my attention once again about the MDC abuse of powers and authority..
We have all read in MDC rules and newspaper publication about how the MDC wants to get rid of wild hogs completely..They say such things like shoot on sight -no limit-NO LICENSE-(except during deer season)etc..but once again they have tried to take over another property owners rules and regs it seems...BUT
As it turns out the USFS takes a man to court for hunting hogs on forest service land without their proper permits...Not the MDC-- who has consistently claimed to have the say on National forest land Hunting...I noticed not one letter was ever sent to the News media for clarification...A quick check with the Forest service will tell you plain and simple they can do what they want when they want...They can close all hunting or even open hunting when they want..Not the MDC...I guess a good case in point is a few years ago in the Northwest states some Gov,t genius decided to turn loose Wolves and no-one could do a dam thing about it..Now they are out of control and the people are taking care of it and keeping their mouth shut..Now something is rotten when a person has to sneak around their own property like a thief because some "brainless Judge" abuse of power...
More than one person thinks its time to hold these Judges responsible for decisions that clearly are against the law.Like some sort of a commitee that can fine them or "can" them right now with no benefits..I am amazed at how many people think you have to a lawyer to be a Judge..Not true..The best Judges MO ever had were not Lawyers...Had an old timer tell me once He wouldn,t trade a ton of Lawyers for a pound of common sense which now adays seem to be lacking in todays law....
Now heres a novel idea..Property owners do NOT have to open their property to hunting When the MDC wants..Lets close all private property to hunting for few years with the owners taking what they need from THEIR land.Maybe when they run out of money from the 90% of people who hunt on other peoples land they will give the property owners the respect they deserve...Let the MDC see how many people will buy a license to hunt on state land...
I mean hey look property owners the MDC is taking money from people that are using your land to hunt on and you don,t get a dime for those food plots and whatever you do to keep the "critters"there...I know many people pay the landowner but the MDC sits there like a parasite taking in money off of your labor and then has the guts to say you are too stupid to manage your land..
What ever happened to the MDC works for us and not us for them..Give it some thought...
We have all read in MDC rules and newspaper publication about how the MDC wants to get rid of wild hogs completely..They say such things like shoot on sight -no limit-NO LICENSE-(except during deer season)etc..but once again they have tried to take over another property owners rules and regs it seems...BUT
As it turns out the USFS takes a man to court for hunting hogs on forest service land without their proper permits...Not the MDC-- who has consistently claimed to have the say on National forest land Hunting...I noticed not one letter was ever sent to the News media for clarification...A quick check with the Forest service will tell you plain and simple they can do what they want when they want...They can close all hunting or even open hunting when they want..Not the MDC...I guess a good case in point is a few years ago in the Northwest states some Gov,t genius decided to turn loose Wolves and no-one could do a dam thing about it..Now they are out of control and the people are taking care of it and keeping their mouth shut..Now something is rotten when a person has to sneak around their own property like a thief because some "brainless Judge" abuse of power...
More than one person thinks its time to hold these Judges responsible for decisions that clearly are against the law.Like some sort of a commitee that can fine them or "can" them right now with no benefits..I am amazed at how many people think you have to a lawyer to be a Judge..Not true..The best Judges MO ever had were not Lawyers...Had an old timer tell me once He wouldn,t trade a ton of Lawyers for a pound of common sense which now adays seem to be lacking in todays law....
Now heres a novel idea..Property owners do NOT have to open their property to hunting When the MDC wants..Lets close all private property to hunting for few years with the owners taking what they need from THEIR land.Maybe when they run out of money from the 90% of people who hunt on other peoples land they will give the property owners the respect they deserve...Let the MDC see how many people will buy a license to hunt on state land...
I mean hey look property owners the MDC is taking money from people that are using your land to hunt on and you don,t get a dime for those food plots and whatever you do to keep the "critters"there...I know many people pay the landowner but the MDC sits there like a parasite taking in money off of your labor and then has the guts to say you are too stupid to manage your land..
What ever happened to the MDC works for us and not us for them..Give it some thought...
Sunday, June 14, 2009
The MDC is out of control how do we stop them
Well if you haven't figured it out by now I feel sorry for you,but to sum it up everything points to the MDC as being a "socialist-communist"government within a Government and this is nation wide...They have defied constitution law both state and federal..when it comes to Property rights and Liberty to make a choice... their motto seems to be" The MDC is all knowing and all good come to us for help..
Have you noticed the MDC seems to be geared toward the under 50 generation(which I refer to as the "I don't give a dam put it on my credit card generation"Nothing for the older Folks who for half a century or more paid their dues..
You think maybe they would give them a little season of their own for a few days..What does the MDC do..They make a season for babies NOT YOUTH..Most lookups will consider a youth from 15 to 18 NOT 6 yrs old...What the MDC did was create a whole new type of "poacher"a Daddy poacher..I don't know how that happened but most people were dead set against that season and what did the MDC do ??They gave them another one in January..I mean they can not read or write or spell and the MDC says its OK as long as their with an 18 yr old with the same qualifactions but then to put their picture in the paper standing next to a 20 point Buck with a 270 taller than the kid and captioned "little Suzy with her first Buck shot at 3 miles or something other ridiculous ..Get real..We know who shot that Deer...
You have to shake your head in the first place and ask yourself what kind a parent would ever subject a baby to high powered rifle..talk about child abuse..
And then shake your head again as to what kind of Game Dept would sanction such crap..unless there is an underlying motive of "brainwashing these kids as young as possible to the MDC way of thinking.My question is how do we stop it..The MDC is out of control...
Have you noticed the MDC seems to be geared toward the under 50 generation(which I refer to as the "I don't give a dam put it on my credit card generation"Nothing for the older Folks who for half a century or more paid their dues..
You think maybe they would give them a little season of their own for a few days..What does the MDC do..They make a season for babies NOT YOUTH..Most lookups will consider a youth from 15 to 18 NOT 6 yrs old...What the MDC did was create a whole new type of "poacher"a Daddy poacher..I don't know how that happened but most people were dead set against that season and what did the MDC do ??They gave them another one in January..I mean they can not read or write or spell and the MDC says its OK as long as their with an 18 yr old with the same qualifactions but then to put their picture in the paper standing next to a 20 point Buck with a 270 taller than the kid and captioned "little Suzy with her first Buck shot at 3 miles or something other ridiculous ..Get real..We know who shot that Deer...
You have to shake your head in the first place and ask yourself what kind a parent would ever subject a baby to high powered rifle..talk about child abuse..
And then shake your head again as to what kind of Game Dept would sanction such crap..unless there is an underlying motive of "brainwashing these kids as young as possible to the MDC way of thinking.My question is how do we stop it..The MDC is out of control...
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